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Episode 7 · 4 years ago

Marcel Durand and the case against electromagnetic fields

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Marcel Durand learned about the dangers electromagnetic fields have on his health years ago. Now he's working on various lawsuits that alleges industry and governments colluded to hurt Canadians since 1999. He wants the court to force them to protect our health before more damage occurs. For more information, refer to: https://traceyarial.com/blog/marcel-durand/.

My name is Tracy Ariel and I am an apologetically Canadian. Today I'm speaking with Marcel Durant, the class actual action representative in a case about electromagnetic fields that's being heard this week to find out if it can be approved as a class action suit in Quebec. This is a case against the Mahean Maons and draw are going up against the Attorney General Canada, Attorney General Quebec, Hydro Quebec and all of the telecommunications industry and the tourism industry to try and get them to because it's alleged that they all knew that people would get sick because of their actions. Marcel Dera, first let meet. Let's talk about you are the one of the named class action representatives in a case that's happening this week, timing to do with MF and the cumulative effects of that. How did you get involved in that? What what made you decide to represent the class? How did you meet Charles? What to what we're what happened to make you connect to this case? Actually, what happened was city council meeting in Saint under that where we were opposed to the erection of a tower right namingly the Rogers Tower. The size of the unit itself that was installed here. This proportionate for the needs. That's what I think. Second of all, the what happened at City Council was we weren't listened to. The objections,...

...if we had any, were weren't taken into consideration and the discussion ended there. And that's what decided me. The council didn't want to hear anything about that. Any objections were rebuffed, denied and basically more we're not going to be listened okay. So, same time to lack is. That is a location where you live, right. Isn't your Ottawa yet? No, not in near, not in near, censerver, it's time dlak. Okay, do lack is near Quebec city. Okay. So sat down de Lac and so you. When was this? How long have you been living there? I've been living there for and since nine hundred and eighty six house. And so this like what what made you get concerned about Yama and this particular tower? Tower itself come, the tower itself come after my preoccupation. My preoccupation dates back one thousand nine hundred and ninety nine. I was informed of this technology evolving. I personally had a cell phone all back then, and what really got me involved after all these years of research, was the fact that the towers were growing up like mushrooms everywhere and all the technology was transferring to Michael, learning about microwave, finding out about microwave and getting deeper into subject, knowing that microwaves oven do get you sick, I got concerned.

I had lost a lot of sleep when smart meter deployment started round two thousand and four, two thousand and five, I had a deck phone back then in the house and the information I had and I just correlated everything together, eliminated the deck phone, eliminated x thing that concerns cell phone in and then I started sleeping better, and that's one. At the city council meeting that dates back in two thousand and thirteen, I started to figure out if there could be anything done and the only you're breaking up with darn it, I can't hear you myself. Are you? Are you there? Yeah, okay, now I can hear you. Okay, so well started. Go ahead, no, I am you started breaking up as soon as you were talking about the getting more sleep. So yes, was this was in two thousand and four. Yeah, two thousand and four and five and six. These three years were pivotal years because the towers were growing up very fast in the area. So what's the smart meters? But no relations were made. Then, when I understood the smart meeters needed towers to communicate and or routers from high to Quebec in their post and bold, I started looking inside the house. My problem was that I had a deck phone. That's probably why I was well, what is a deck phone? A deck phone is a phone...

...unit that has no wiring. It only comes in with a wire, has a base station at the house and it's the phone that has no wires. Okay, so that entire thing operates on Wi fi, or well, something similar to Wi fi. Yeah, okay. So that, having understood that and having eliminated that phone system in my house, although I sounded very practical because I could go outside and get phone calls and through phone calls and forms, it prevented my sleep and I understood that the base unit was demitting too much and too fast and too too strong of a radiation that once it was cut off one of them, once I threw it out in our fish really know, I started sleeping better in two thousand, two thousand and six, two thousand and seven, two thousand and eight, and towers were going much faster in the area and I got involved less than right starting to my deputy, the city count. So nobody was really interested and was all in my mind. And then I started to get really suspicious because I'm not a stupid guy. I don't like to be taken for a fool and I don't like people telling me that it's all in my head. I don't do that to people. I don't expect anybody to do it for me. So my curiosity and my suspicion grew proportunately to be evolution of this system. Now what you have to understand is, once you understand the technology, once you understand what it is all about, that there are consequences, medical, psychological, environmental...

...consequences. That that's when it got serious with me. What also triggered my opposition to all this microwave technology was that Hydroquebec seems to be in carrying microwaves in their power line. Now, that being said, a power line, a high power were transmission line, was built on my road, on my street, and I had my workshop underneath it. And in two thousand and eight, two thousand and seven, I was diagnosed with lusacitic leukemia, chronically INSA city flukemia, and I asked my doctor what could cause that and his answer was the environment. It's very general answer that I got from my doctor. I was he wasn't more specific than that. So consequently that sort of said to myself, if the power lines are doing this, a year later my neighbor in front of my street, in front of my house and the opposite sick of the street, died of a cancer, a general cancer. Two years later in the neighbor on the up side of my street, right beside he, she died of a young cancer, also, of what kind of Kiser? A general cancer. I am not any tastes, so their family, but she also two years later. A year later the neighbor on...

...my down on the down side of my of my house. Her trees caught up on fire where the line, the high power line, just made a junction with the other power line for sent down to act all the trees spontaneously cause fire and there's an extension. The police came, hydrokine fired department and that was that until two years later. Now we're talking about two thousand and fourteen, two thousand and thirteen, and I remember she it was a couple who owned that helps where the fire happened. She had for suicide attempts in the same year before they decided to sell the house. Well, so all that put together. I've had met taught chills through the phone. Tells the rhyme through the phone. Wait, into the phone. Well, I heard of Charles being involved in this kind of lawsuit for somebody else in the eastern township, farmer who had a park farm and the power line from HYDROQUEBEC was above the what do you call that place for the race port? No, wrench, it's a fushery. I don't know how to say. Oh, okay, well, where the anyway? So, yeah, I can't remember what it's called either. Anyway, wait, any where. The pigs live right above that. The line, the hydro power line, high tension line,...

...did a sharp term and she noticed that the fort the piglets were getting effected. This formation aggressivity, aggressive any to the fight to the kill. And Charles, I heard through Andrew mccawski, was involved in this kind of lit a litigation so I started calling Charles about this and then I had the idea of a of the lawsuit and we got it going from there. So that was what two thousand and fourteen or two thousand and fifteen thirteen? Two Thousand and thirteen, okay, and two thousand and fourteen before we start to get spirits about talking about the Bale boss of fourteen to fifteen around there. Okay. So the first half of hundred and fifteen was more of a consolidation of information on how to. In May of two and fifteen three started action and during the summer and two hundred and fifty three positive emotion, which was the positive overword of fifteen. Right, okay, and that's the man. That's the motion that led directly to the hearing that's happening this week. Yes, and that's because this hearing is to determine whether or not the courts will accept this as a class action lawsuit. Yes, okay, and the lawsuit itself is based on anybody who has problems with cumulative effects from all of these...

...sources, because you've just mentioned hydro lines, a telephone, microwaves. What are the other kinds of things that can cause that? You accumulated. Well, the actual sensitivity is also the result of a multitude of exposures. We understand the cumulative effect of chemical contamination. I mean your your contaminated with lead wants and you know you had to get over it in a year, year and a half, and then you don't get exposed again, you're fine. But if you get exposed to lead continuously at a very small dose, we can call that cumulative effect. Right. Okay. The same goals with electromagnetic fields, all kind, low or high frequency, I believe. Okay. And so talk about your friendship with Charles, and I mean because you guys have been working to try and prevent basically, there are fixes to some of the technology. It doesn't have to be these technological there are technological fixes to prevent this kind of damage. Of course there are, and they are very simple. Problem I have is I have an industry doesn't even look at the corrections that can be man a that can physically correct situation, and the effort the political and financial electors not made. You see, connect all the houses...

...to microwave communication system. You're augmenting the electro magnetic field Hash. Now all these units emit radiation, all be it at a different level of from one another. But if you combine it all, the man or the woman has a cell phone, the depth phone, the microwave ovens, plus those sick the chips that are installing in all the apparatus is that you use in your house, such as a fridge, your washing machine and so on, you just start mending the hash of the the interde circumstances in which you live in is just a pure microwave field, Augmentici by the communication sessively continuously communicate, right. So you know what we're told is for the reason of finding out what's going on and then being able to Tom Bill you because you open your fridge staight times instead of for or you wash too much close or whatever. You're going to be built for that. So it's like living in a smog. If you have a solution for me eliminating the smog, you use basically implemented technology to to cut it down. The effort is not being made by industry to cut everything down right. So and so that's what you're hoping to do with this case. Yes, and they at least make them conscious that the Commula that communic the cumulation of all these electro magnetic ways of any kind...

...will have a detrimental effect. We're AL already seeing on this cell phone base, tablet, base, computer base, effects on children, on their eyesight, on their way they communicate health. It's harder in schools to for bit self students in a classroom who are communicating with mommy because Mommy told text, but that going to be late. That student is not being very concentrated in his work, to give you an example. Right, right in any endustry. So very complicated subject, very delicate subject. Well, my understanding is that baby monitors are among the items that people are worried about as well. I mean it's anything that has that's not plugged in directly to an Internet source or whatever is as it is constantly emitting. Yeah, yeah, printers. Yeah, I mean the number of items in addition to the smart meter, the deck, the hydro wires, all of the other things you were talking about, the the number of other sources are I mean it's getting bigger and bigger all the time. Yeah, and Alrighty, studies of being made and we know the effect, we know the results. We know also that the...

...human environment getting alloted at that level. If anything, happens, for God forbid, if anything happens, somebody dies from the system, to be very difficult to prove. But I want the lawsuits, building laws. I've learned and I've met people who already have gone away from your house or living in their car, who are becoming homeless because of you. Want treat yeah, when they want treatment, they go to the hospital and they come out through the psychiatric cord, which is not right. I mean, if somebody can configure out or intelligence, and by the way, I have to say this, all of the people that I've met concerning this are all responsible people, responsible citizens. They have houses, they have responsibilities, they have jobs, good pay jobs. I met doctors, I've my pious segment engineers. I don't think that these people are crazy. You can't qualify that kind of psychological as section on people like that. It's impossible. You can't do that. But you're saying because they are sensitive, their symptoms are being are not being believed, that they're they're thinking that this is something that they're imagining exactly. And I thought, because this is that, because the symptoms are so severe, can you describe the kinds of people you've been talking to well, I'll...

...give you an example. We have an accident. I will not give her name, but she used to be a first respond to, first responder as an ambulance from the Nord, Etcetera. She's worked a lot with the communicating devices in the ambulance. To me that she worked in a person who has knowledge about medicine. She understood what was going on and she understood why she was being effected. Being affected means having the loss of concentration in her job, loss of minds, fault. Thanks all re they related to the communication systems they have in enders. They communicate with seven of your regat. That's that's a lot. Well, it's the civil security system. It is more problem. Okay, so that would be so it's for someone who is hypersensitive, that would affect them even more, but they wouldn't know what was actually affecting them. So the kinds of symptoms is they can't sleep like you had. What are they? Other kinds of symptoms? Mine, fog, Derman, Derman, political problems, skin problems, their problems, loss of appetite, loss wait and everything in bold. When you start to realize that something infecting you and and psychologically, when people tell you you're crazy. When you're not, it can affect you and your life, I'm sure, especially when...

...you know I'm busy trying to figure out what's wrong with you exactly exactly. And so that's why, so, because of this work, that's why you agreed to be the named representative. Yes, okay. And so what has that like? What has that process been up until now? I mean this, this is up to forday hearing try and determine if this can be a class action. A lot of work, a lot of worry, a lot of research, a lot of communication with specialist and you're being treated for you've been treated for the kimmias. Go Right, which means going. I'm not treated. I am diagnosed with CORONDOMT. Okay, okay, when the time comes to treated, I will treat treated, but not now. They sold these kind of conditions. It's always wait and see. So every six months I have to go to the hospital and thro a blood to see the life parfect. So far, so good. I build myself a Faraday cage in my room, or I measured with the apparatus is required to measure macro ways. I frequencies and look frequencies. My measurements are at zero. As soon as I go out the house or in the living room, anywhere else but my room, all the Hash is augmented. So what do you mean? The Hash is augmented, Michael? With Hash, the the radiations are augmented.

I'm not going to ferret the whole house. I don't have three million dollars to put in that stuff. Right, right, Oh, I see. So you've ferreted it so that when you sleep you're not affected. heretically, theoretically, assuming that that that's actually working and and that the devices that you have can actually measure exactly right. Okay, all right. So what's going to happen this week then? What? What do you what? Are you planning for a good story? You're going to be going into watch turtles, I guess, because the why I'm watching. No, rather, my world is more of the I'm the class REP, so I I know the subject, I know the case, so I know the affion, so I know the people that I'm representing. I also know that I I won't be able to speak not a word. So my jobs aren't the small, susy rap. Right, okay, and that starts on Tuesday. Yes, now, wow, and up and assuming there's it could end on Friday, assuming I could end on Friday or Thursday. Right. I doubt that. It's must stuff. We're going to be very long on this because it's a complicated subject, but in the general, general sense of the lawsuits, that will be up to the judge. She will decide, right, right, okay, all right, and I guess I'll check in with you after that. I guess. Now I just need to ask you the one question that, oh, the one question I ask all of my guests because it's unapologetically Canadian.

Are You Canadian? Do you consider yourself Canadian and, if so, what does that mean to you? Our Canadian that I'm in a country based in law and in law there are rules I expect the system to obey and to follow the same rules that I follow. We are a country of law and I am trying very hard to make sure that these laws are applied and that applicable to everyone. Right. You know, I will not submit a political opinion on this. I know it's not listen, you don't not necessary in whatever, depending on the results that might be in political opinion. But then that I'm rejumping that right for later. Exactly exactly and was there anything that I didn't ask you that you were hoping to mention it? But the case, well, I'm going in this case with a very open mind. I have worked in the film industry and I have known technicians that died because of overexposure to certainly electronic equipment. They died very silently with non Egal consequences and God also shocked me a lot because in the film business we used, we use a lot of electricity, love kinds direct current or a see. So I don't know, it's just, you know, it's like it's like the best thing. I mean the miners were temp we're told there's nothing there...

...and then finally they were all dying off left and right. Afflection that best is makes just sick after exposure, saying with led, the same with tests. So I think there's something there to be done. Actually, right, right, well, you're doing it. I mean, yeah, you put a lot of effort into this, yes, and hopefully the debatement will be true. You know, hopefully it will. Hopefully it will all right. Thank you myself. I appreciate your time. Thank you and I appreciate all your work on this. Two thank you for your work. All right, take care. You do. Have a good Moore. Okay, yeah, bye, okay. Thank you for listening to an apologetically Canadian. This episode was brought to you by notable non fiction. Notable nonfiction teaches people to grow through their own ingenuity. Find out more at notable nonfictioncom.

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